Is Primal censoring stuff?
So there is a reply by @jb55 in some thread saying that Primal’s caching relay is not a Nostr relay and can censor stuff. Primal app only reads from it and the users have no way around it.
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nevent1qqsxc…j93ynx97
What’s interesting is that I couldn’t see that event from Primal! Did they censor it or am I missing something?
Primal link (404): https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqsxcgs4mcsq7ndnnzwztan0hv9w68gvw2dhj7gsjmgj3za90tuyr6spz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzqvhpsfmr23gwhv795lgjc8uw0v44z3pe4sg2vlh08k0an3wx3cj93ynx97 Iris link (works): https://iris.to/nevent1qqsxcgs4mcsq7ndnnzwztan0hv9w68gvw2dhj7gsjmgj3za90tuyr6spz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzqvhpsfmr23gwhv795lgjc8uw0v44z3pe4sg2vlh08k0an3wx3cj93ynx97 njump link (works): https://njump.me/nevent1qqsxcgs4mcsq7ndnnzwztan0hv9w68gvw2dhj7gsjmgj3za90tuyr6spz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzqvhpsfmr23gwhv795lgjc8uw0v44z3pe4sg2vlh08k0an3wx3cj93ynx97
But from nak CLI it works??? From Primal’s regular and cache relays:
13:12:09 ➜ ~ nak fetch nevent1qqsxcgs4mcsq7ndnnzwztan0hv9w68gvw2dhj7gsjmgj3za90tuyr6spz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzqvhpsfmr23gwhv795lgjc8uw0v44z3pe4sg2vlh08k0an3wx3cj93ynx97 \
relay.primal.net
{"kind":1,"id":"6c2215de200f4db3989c25f66fbb0aed1d0c729b79791096d1288ba57af841ea","pubkey":"32e1827635450ebb3c5a7d12c1f8e7b2b514439ac10a67eef3d9fd9c5c68e245","created_at":1780154562,"tags":[["e","d12d6971460120f0df9fa6e4c3a467b07ab0068895cf6755bdcc9c0304e9a9bc","","root"],["e","bf0f0fe63972e1e4ada9ed3651a413ff43928b4edf7ca77981d3a00ec4f37d07","wss://relay.primal.net","reply","3129509e23d3a6125e1451a5912dbe01099e151726c4766b44e1ecb8c846f506"],["p","ee6ea13ab9fe5c4a68eaf9b1a34fe014a66b40117c50ee2a614f4cda959b6e74"],["p","8867bed93e89c93d0d8ac98b2443c5554799edb9190346946b12e03f13664450"],["p","8ba925605a26e3afb39350e76d6af4e37e91b1e7e834e3fa911d546f8e1cfd1d"],["p","3129509e23d3a6125e1451a5912dbe01099e151726c4766b44e1ecb8c846f506"],["client","Damus"]],"content":"their caching server isn’t nostr, so primal technically isn’t even a nostr client. It’s a proprietary platform that sources data from nostr. Their app only reads from this server, They can censor people (which they’ve done multiple times) and users can’t add additional relays to get around it.\n\nI have been saying this for years and everytime i do i get attacked by ten31 investors and bitcoin influencer circlejerkers who fund primal and who are also on the board of opensats (scammer odell, neighbour-of-miljan nvk who ten31 also invested in and who are all friends and also fucks over seedsigner through opensats so that only their buddies win, etc).\n\nPrimal investors and bitcoin influencers hate when i point this out and claim just jealous of primal even though i dont bitch about any other nostr client.\n\nI think primal is the biggest existential risk to nostr, since it is the most popular nostr app and it risks ruining nostr’s entire reputation once they start censoring more people and if their client starts crashing/disappears. people will think nostr is censored, centralized, and unreliable.\n\nI will continue to point this out because its crazy to me people still don’t know this and push unsuspecting noobs to it.","sig":"43ad24fc59f2e86b15865119b2f01b20f374e6ecf3627bb268706f90fb3ed45e236b6e286ef68e1544911dffa29ea9e148ea51779dec1fd5530390248b87c772"}
failed to fetch nip05: failed to decode json response: parse error: syntax error near offset 0 of '<html> <he...'
13:12:16 ➜ ~ nak fetch nevent1qqsxcgs4mcsq7ndnnzwztan0hv9w68gvw2dhj7gsjmgj3za90tuyr6spz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzqvhpsfmr23gwhv795lgjc8uw0v44z3pe4sg2vlh08k0an3wx3cj93ynx97 \
cache2.primal.net/v1
{"kind":1,"id":"6c2215de200f4db3989c25f66fbb0aed1d0c729b79791096d1288ba57af841ea","pubkey":"32e1827635450ebb3c5a7d12c1f8e7b2b514439ac10a67eef3d9fd9c5c68e245","created_at":1780154562,"tags":[["e","d12d6971460120f0df9fa6e4c3a467b07ab0068895cf6755bdcc9c0304e9a9bc","","root"],["e","bf0f0fe63972e1e4ada9ed3651a413ff43928b4edf7ca77981d3a00ec4f37d07","wss://relay.primal.net","reply","3129509e23d3a6125e1451a5912dbe01099e151726c4766b44e1ecb8c846f506"],["p","ee6ea13ab9fe5c4a68eaf9b1a34fe014a66b40117c50ee2a614f4cda959b6e74"],["p","8867bed93e89c93d0d8ac98b2443c5554799edb9190346946b12e03f13664450"],["p","8ba925605a26e3afb39350e76d6af4e37e91b1e7e834e3fa911d546f8e1cfd1d"],["p","3129509e23d3a6125e1451a5912dbe01099e151726c4766b44e1ecb8c846f506"],["client","Damus"]],"content":"their caching server isn’t nostr, so primal technically isn’t even a nostr client. It’s a proprietary platform that sources data from nostr. Their app only reads from this server, They can censor people (which they’ve done multiple times) and users can’t add additional relays to get around it.\n\nI have been saying this for years and everytime i do i get attacked by ten31 investors and bitcoin influencer circlejerkers who fund primal and who are also on the board of opensats (scammer odell, neighbour-of-miljan nvk who ten31 also invested in and who are all friends and also fucks over seedsigner through opensats so that only their buddies win, etc).\n\nPrimal investors and bitcoin influencers hate when i point this out and claim just jealous of primal even though i dont bitch about any other nostr client.\n\nI think primal is the biggest existential risk to nostr, since it is the most popular nostr app and it risks ruining nostr’s entire reputation once they start censoring more people and if their client starts crashing/disappears. people will think nostr is censored, centralized, and unreliable.\n\nI will continue to point this out because its crazy to me people still don’t know this and push unsuspecting noobs to it.","sig":"43ad24fc59f2e86b15865119b2f01b20f374e6ecf3627bb268706f90fb3ed45e236b6e286ef68e1544911dffa29ea9e148ea51779dec1fd5530390248b87c772"}
It’s weird because from primal.net in an incognito window I could see all other replays from his account.
Am I missing something or what is going on here?
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