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OUTLINE:

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(00:00) – Introduction

(07:08) – Stalin and absolute power

(21:05) – Dictators and genocide

(45:31) – What is genocide

(55:38) – Human nature and suffering

(1:25:23) – Mao’s Great Leap Forward

(1:32:37) – North Korea

(1:36:30) – Our role in fighting against atrocities

(1:45:26) – China

(1:49:35) – Hopes for the future and technology

(2:04:28) – Advice for young people

(2:07:15) – Love and tragedy