Elon Musk is CEO of Neuralink, SpaceX, Tesla, xAI, and CTO of X. DJ Seo is COO & President of Neuralink. Matthew MacDougall is Head Neurosurgeon at Neuralink. Bliss Chapman is Brain Interface Software Lead at Neuralink. Noland Arbaugh is the first human to have a Neuralink device implanted in his brain.

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Elon’s X: https://x.com/elonmusk (https://x.com/elonmusk)

DJ’s X: https://x.com/djseo _(https://x.com/djseo_)

Matthew’s X: https://x.com/matthewmacdoug4 (https://x.com/matthewmacdoug4)

Bliss’s X: https://x.com/chapman_bliss (https://x.com/chapman_bliss)

Noland’s X: https://x.com/ModdedQuad (https://x.com/ModdedQuad)

xAI: https://x.com/xai (https://x.com/xai)

Tesla: https://x.com/tesla (https://x.com/tesla)

Tesla Optimus: https://x.com/tesla_optimus (https://x.com/tesla_optimus)

Tesla AI: https://x.com/Tesla_AI (https://x.com/Tesla_AI)

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OUTLINE:

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(00:00) – Introduction

(09:26) – Elon Musk

(12:42) – Telepathy

(19:22) – Power of human mind

(23:49) – Future of Neuralink

(29:04) – Ayahuasca

(38:33) – Merging with AI

(43:21) – xAI

(45:34) – Optimus

(52:24) – Elon’s approach to problem-solving

(1:09:59) – History and geopolitics

(1:14:30) – Lessons of history

(1:18:49) – Collapse of empires

(1:26:32) – Time

(1:29:14) – Aliens and curiosity

(1:36:48) – DJ Seo

(1:44:57) – Neural dust

(1:51:40) – History of brain–computer interface

(1:59:44) – Biophysics of neural interfaces

(2:10:12) – How Neuralink works

(2:16:03) – Lex with Neuralink implant

(2:36:01) – Digital telepathy

(2:47:03) – Retracted threads

(2:52:38) – Vertical integration

(2:59:32) – Safety

(3:09:27) – Upgrades

(3:18:30) – Future capabilities

(3:47:46) – Matthew MacDougall

(3:53:35) – Neuroscience

(4:00:44) – Neurosurgery

(4:11:48) – Neuralink surgery

(4:30:57) – Brain surgery details

(4:46:40) – Implanting Neuralink on self

(5:02:34) – Life and death

(5:11:54) – Consciousness

(5:14:48) – Bliss Chapman

(5:28:04) – Neural signal

(5:34:56) – Latency

(5:39:36) – Neuralink app

(5:44:17) – Intention vs action

(5:55:31) – Calibration

(6:05:03) – Webgrid

(6:28:05) – Neural decoder

(6:48:40) – Future improvements

(6:57:36) – Noland Arbaugh

(6:57:45) – Becoming paralyzed

(7:11:20) – First Neuralink human participant

(7:15:21) – Day of surgery

(7:33:08) – Moving mouse with brain

(7:58:27) – Webgrid

(8:06:28) – Retracted threads

(8:14:53) – App improvements

(8:21:38) – Gaming

(8:32:36) – Future Neuralink capabilities

(8:35:31) – Controlling Optimus robot

(8:39:53) – God

(8:41:58) – Hope