Keyu Jin is an economist specializing in China’s economy, international macroeconomics, global trade imbalances, and financial policy. She is the author of The New China Playbook: Beyond Socialism and Capitalism.

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OUTLINE:

(00:00) – Introduction

(00:35) – Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections

(08:26) – Misconceptions about China

(12:57) – Education in China

(22:14) – Economic reforms of Deng Xiaoping

(27:33) – Mayor economy and GDP growth race

(41:20) – Growing up in China

(46:58) – First time in the US

(51:12) – China’s government vs business sector

(54:46) – Communism and capitalism

(58:25) – Jack Ma

(1:04:37) – China’s view on innovation and copying ideas

(1:11:15) – DeepSeek moment

(1:15:09) – CHIPS Act

(1:16:56) – Tariffs and Trade

(1:29:21) – Immigration

(1:34:08) – Taiwan

(1:39:54) – One-child policy

(1:47:51) – China’s economy collapse predictions

(1:52:34) – Advice for visiting China

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